Session Start: Mon May 25 01:46:23 1998
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#chat1 topic is Welcome to PSI TECH Chat!
#chat1 topic set by Pele on Sat May 23 17:16:13
<hmmm> I'm new...whats the subject?
<Ian> I scared this one girl today because she watched as I literally animated my hand with shapes before her and this other girls eyes.
<Ian> they were both stopped dead in disbelief.
<peapod> did she run away screaming?
<Ian> then I did it to the one girl.
<Wildfire> what did you do when you woke up
<Ian> no, she held in there.
<Ian> Even let me do them to her.
<Ian> She's cool with it since I have known her for years thankfully.
<Ian> Hey Hmmm.
<Ian> Well, It's off topic.
<Ian> But it has to do with mind over matter.
<Wildfire> the subject is : "Valium... uses and doses"
<hmmm> Tell me more
<Wildfire> would you like a sample
<Ian> It's just something that I have been able to do over the last month.
<hmmm> sure--I think. Will it hurt?
<Ian> Want just the quick short list of effects?
<Ian> When it first occured, I was able to induce paralysis on a persons hand. Repeated several times to several people. Then reduced it to numbness, hot, cold, vibration, and pain. Then I was able to project a mark like a circle, triangle or square into their hand, arm or face where it visibly appeared.
<Ian> that's the short list.
<hmmm> Wow--what do I have to do?
<Ian> I stand as far as 5 feet away, as close as 1 " away to achieve it without ever touching them.
<hmmm> Wildfire asked if I wanted a sample. I'm interested
<Ian> Uh, well, I never tried it over the net...I wonder if I could.
<Ian> Ok, stick out your hand, let me experiment...hehe... just hold it to the side and feel.
<Ian> just be aware of it though totally doubtful anything will happen.
<Ian> but possibilites are never left unexplored.
<hmmm> its tingly
<Ian> keep holding it out
<hmmm> oh I was just holding it by my side
<Ian> that's ok
<Ian> look at the very center of your hand and just watch it for a few moments
<Ian> ok that's it
<Ian> the best I can do from such an invisible, physically out of touch target.
<Ian> tell me if there was any effects at all if any.
<Ian> anything aside from tingles?
<hmmm> well, unless i'm imagining it, the center of my left palm has a large white area
<Ian> any shape to it?
<hmmm> it olmost looks like a tulip plant
<hmmm> a leaf on near the thumb and a stem in the center and a flower
<Ian> hold your hand out again, let me try another go.
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<Ian> watch it closely
<Ian> ok done, any effects...?
<hmmm> the center is definately whiter than the rest of the palm
<Ian> tactile and/or visual.
<Ian> compared to your other hand?
<hmmm> what were you concentrating on
<Ian> hold them both out, and focus I will work on one target hand, tell me if there is any changes between the hands in the form of tactile and/or visual...
<Ian> I will tell you in a sec.
<Ian> let's play a little more first.
<Ian> ok, done.
-> *wildfire* targetted the right hand.
<Ian> what hand did you get a result on?
<Ian> if any
<hmmm> looks like a white blob in the center of my right hand
<hmmm> my left hand in now pink
<Ian> wild fire, what hand did I msg you?
<Ian> the target hand.
<Ian> thanks wild fire!
<Ian> That's the best I can do Hmmm...
<Ian> what ever conclusions you would like.
<Ian> it was the right hand.
<hmmm> That's really impressive
<Ian> Never expected any result.
<hmmm> what did you do the first time?
<Ian> anything tactile?
<Ian> it's complexed, but let me try to summarise it.
<hmmm> it tingled a little at first, my left hand
<Ian> I tried to place a cylender of energy in the center of your palm to form a circle.
<Ian> I imagined the cylender passing into and through the palm, in the center of the hand.
<hmmm> on my left hand
<Ian> then I target the right hand afterwards and used the same exact cylender.
<hmmm> I could say what I saw was a cylinder shape
<hmmm> what came on the right hand was very much like the left
<Ian> it's hard for me to tell of course since I cannot see it.
<Ian> ok, cool.
<Ian> this is the first time I ever attempted anything like this in this kind of range.
<Ian> interesting to say the least if a desired result was achieved.
<hmmm> I'm in Ohio, where are you?
<Ian> Penticton B.C. Canada
<hmmm> I've been interested in RV for a long time
<Ian> I don't do RV :(
<Ian> I have yet to train.
<Ian> this has nothing to do with TRV.
<Ian> it's pretty much off topic.
<Wildfire> Ian do you have any computer programming skills
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<hmmm> What you are doing must take the same kind of skills
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<Ian> Well, I stay away from that ideology.
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<hmmm> programming skills?
<Ian> If you want to try again Hmmm, let me know and I will try another experiment.
<hmmm> sure--tell me just what to do
<Ian> same thing, stick out both hands and observe both, let me focus on one hand that you are not aware of.
<Ian> And I will tell WildFire, my desired goal.
<Ian> and then see if it matches your experience
<hmmm> ready when you are
<Ian> ok ready...give me a few seconds..
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<Ian> ok that is the best i can do, any tactile and/or visual effects, if so which hand?
<hmmm> whole right hand feels heavy
<hmmm> theres a white spot in the center
<hmmm> a blue dot at 7 o'clock
<hmmm> maybe some light pink dots in the center
<hmmm> am I imagining it?
<Ian> look at the left hand, lower hand near the thumb and palm
<Ian> what do you see if anything there,
<Ian> perhaps a smaller shape possibly pink.
<hmmm> a long dark streak from the base of the thumb almost to the center of my palm
<Ian> does it form any shape?
<Ian> look close at first and slowly move the hand back
<hmmm> wait, let me look at something on my thumb
<hmmm> boy the base of my thumb sure looks funny, but no discernable shape
<Ian> I tried for a triangle on the left hand.
<hmmm> looks like a couple of welts, parallel
<Ian> it would have appeared pink or redish
<Ian> and it would not have been there normally...
<Ian> ok still look at the left hand, and at the palm area near the thumb and wrist...
<hmmm> I can see a pink triangle where the thumb meets the palm
<Ian> how visual?
<Ian> and is it on a slant?
<Ian> or straight across?
<hmmm> pretty noticeable. it slants
<Ian> ok good, It should slant.
<Ian> look at that triangle, and hold the hand out...
<Ian> let me try again
<hmmm> one point would be at about 5:00
<hmmm> ok left hand?
<hmmm> diamond shape same place point down, really pink
<Ian> keep watching...let me build it up
<Ian> what do you see and what did you feel if anything?
<hmmm> same thing, really red
<Ian> how does it feel?
<Ian> and how big is it?
<hmmm> I don't notice a feeling
<Ian> my goal was to form a circle, above the triange towards the palm, one centimeter in diamiter.
<hmmm> it's probably 1/2 to 3/4 inch on each side.
<Ian> ok size matches up ok.
<hmmm> very regular
<Ian> if I could show you my hand you would see the pattern since it is here on mine now as I speak.
<hmmm> It may be that I'm not too good at seeing these shapes
<Ian> the circle if I managed to send it should be hollow, but and about a millimeter thick in line depth, and one centemeter in diamiter.
<Ian> well, look at the distance we are working at.
<hmmm> I could say there is an ice cream shape instead of a diamond
<Ian> yeah, it would look like an ice-cream cone.
<hmmm> I think I'm impressed, are you?
<Ian> I am very hopeful.
<Ian> it opens a newer door to explore.
<hmmm> So, since I've never been in a chat room before, what do we do? Make an appointment to try again later?
<Ian> as long as you never had the triangle before, and as long as it appeard within this session then something is there to consider for sure.
<Ian> This is a first for me.
<Ian> are you on a WWW?
<Ian> not the chat thing, but the long range mind over matter.
<hmmm> I don't --think--I've had a triangle before, but then I never looked before
<Ian> are you using netscape, or explorer to chat?
<Ian> Or a chat program?
<hmmm> explorer. I came in through looking at ingo swann sites
<Ian> here's my e-mail
<hmmm> followed a thread to psi tech
<Ian> I am big into this kind of stuff.
<hmmm> ok I am email@example.com
<hmmm> I've spent a lifetime researching. Am now disabled, off work and have the time to explore further
<Ian> nice time to open your mind :)
<Ian> I will be posting some photo's on my website soon.
<hmmm> yep, I've been looking forward to having this kind of time since I was 16. Now I'm 59
<Ian> I'm 26 and have been doing OOBE stuff since I was 16
<Ian> I just make the time for it as best I can.
<hmmm> photos of what, and what is your website.
<hmmm> I read a bunch of oobe stuff when the first book came out, probably 20 or so years ago.
<hmmm> I've also talked to a couple of people who have had the experience.
<hmmm> Ian, I'll look forward to hearing from you on e-mail and will check your home page soon. thanks for the experience.
<Ian> no probs, thanks for participating Hmmm
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